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Label Hell Hath No Fury: The Clipse vs. the Music Industry

Coke Rap Royalty Meets Corporate Gridlock

Clipse – the Virginia Beach brothers Terrence Pusha T and Gene “Malice” Thornton (now No Malice) – are often hailed as coke-rap royalty, known for turning detailed drug-dealing narratives into hip-hop gold over The Neptunes’ beats. In the early 2000s, their sharp lyricism and Pharrell Williams’s futuristic production made Clipse critical darlings. Yet despite the talent and buzz, industry politics kept them underground longer than deserved. More Clipse coverage leading up to their comeback album’s release:

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And remarkably, the cycle continues: nearly two decades after their last album, Clipse’s long-awaited comeback project, Let God Sort Em Out, sparked yet another label dispute. In 2024, the duo reportedly paid seven figures to exit their deal with Def Jam after the label demanded Kendrick Lamar censor a verse from a planned collaboration. Pusha T refused. “Of course I was never doing that,” he said. That skirmish ultimately pushed Clipse to Roc Nation and delayed the album’s release—proof that even legends still have to fight for creative control. Listen to the first single off their upcoming album:

Their saga is a cautionary tale of how label turmoil and corporate gridlock can derail even the most promising rap careers. But it’s also a story of defiance, reinvention, and a relentless pursuit of autonomy. From Elektra to Jive, Columbia to Roc Nation, Clipse have survived and outlasted the system by refusing to bend. This is the story of how coke-rap kings clashed with the music industry machine—and how they may finally be emerging victorious.

Clipse Beginnings: Star Trak’s Promising Start

Clipse’s rollercoaster began with a hopeful launch. In 1997, a young Pharrell Williams – then rising as half of production duo The Neptunes – helped the brothers secure a deal with Elektra Records. Under Elektra’s wing, Clipse recorded their would-be debut Exclusive Audio Footage, with The Neptunes producing an album’s worth of tracks featuring guests like Kelis and N.O.R.E. The first single “The Funeral” generated some underground interest but failed to chart in a big way. Deemed a commercial failure, the album was shelved indefinitely, and Elektra dropped Clipse soon after. (Label execs shifted resources to bigger priorities like Missy Elliott and Busta Rhymes, leaving Clipse on the back burner.)

“Wanna know the time? Better clock us / N*ggas bite the style from the shoes to the watches” — Malice, “Grindin’”

It was an early lesson in music biz ruthlessness: a finished album can vanish if a label loses faith (although you can find the album in the depths of the Internet). Opportunity knocked again a few years later. Pharrell never lost faith in the duo, and in early 2001 he signed Clipse to his new Star Trak Entertainment imprint under Arista Records. This time, everything clicked. Clipse’s official debut album Lord Willin’ arrived in August 2002, fueled by the Neptunes’ infectious production and the duo’s bracing street narratives. Lead single “Grindin’” – with its minimalist, trunk-rattling beat – became an undeniable summer anthem, peaking at #34 on the Billboard Hot 100. Follow-up single “When the Last Time” hit #19 and helped Lord Willin’ open at #1 on the R&B/Hip-Hop chart (#4 overall) in its first week. Within a month, the album was certified Gold, validating Clipse as both critical and commercial contenders. The Thornton brothers suddenly had mainstream visibility, even landing a guest spot on Justin Timberlake’s hit “Like I Love You” that year. After years of grinding, Clipse seemed poised for a smooth ride to rap stardom under Star Trak’s guidance.

Arista to Jive: The Shift That Sparked the Rift

That smooth ride didn’t last. In 2004, a major industry shake-up threw Clipse’s trajectory off course. That year Sony Music and BMG merged, and Arista Records was dissolved into its sister label, Jive Records. In the shuffle, Pharrell’s Star Trak imprint moved over to Interscope, but Clipse got left behind on Jive due to contractual fine print.

“And I’m sorry to the fans but those crackers weren’t playin’ fair at Jive” — Pusha T, “Mr. Me Too”

In an instant, the duo found themselves stranded on a label that hadn’t signed them and didn’t share Star Trak’s vision. “When Arista was restructured in 2004… Star Trak joined Interscope, leaving the Clipse behind at Jive,” Billboard reported, noting that the group lobbied to follow Pharrell but was overruled. As Clipse’s manager Tony Draper put it, “The group wasn’t responsible for the confusion, but they paid the price.”

Jive Records’ priorities were worlds apart from Clipse’s gritty street rap. Home to pop and R&B superstars like Britney Spears and Chris Brown, Jive was unsure how to market a cocaine-rap duo from Virginia. The label largely overlooked Clipse in favor of its bubblegum hitmakers, leading to repeated delays for the group’s sophomore album. Internally, Clipse knew they were a bad fit on a teen-pop-oriented roster – they were being handled by executives “with no idea how to market [their] cold, unflinching rhymes and off-kilter beats,” as one writer observed.

Creative support dried up; budgets tightened. The momentum Clipse built with Lord Willin’ screeched to a halt as Jive kept pushing their album back, hoping perhaps that the duo would churn out a more radio-friendly single. It never happened. Instead, Pusha T and Malice grew increasingly frustrated as 2004 turned into 2005 with no album in sight – only corporate bureaucracy and mismatched expectations.

Clipse’s Legal Battle: Shelved and Shackled

By 2005, Clipse was trapped in label limbo. They had a completed second album in the chamber but no control over its fate. Desperate to avoid permanent shelfing, the brothers formally asked to be released from their Jive contract – and when the label refused, Clipse took the fight to court.

They filed a lawsuit aiming to break free from Jive’s four-album deal, essentially suing for their creative freedom. The legal battle would drag on for over a year. “This was a situation that the Clipse didn’t put themselves in,” Pusha T later said of the merger mess and ensuing dispute, capturing their exasperation at having to fight for an album they’d already finished.

While lawyers wrangled, Clipse refused to let their buzz die. Blocked from releasing an official album, they turned to mixtapes – an increasingly viable outlet in the mid-2000s – to keep their name hot in the streets. In 2004, they dropped We Got It 4 Cheap Vol. 1, the first in a series of free mixtapes showcasing Clipse alongside Philly rappers Ab-Liva and Sandman (collectively dubbed the Re-Up Gang). They followed up with Vol. 2 in 2005, unleashing ferocious freestyles and original tracks that reminded fans why Clipse was a force to be reckoned with.

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The tapes succeeded in building a cult following and sustaining interest during the label stalemate. In fact, We Got It 4 Cheap Vol. 2 is now regarded as one of the best mixtapes of that era. Jive’s roadblocks had inadvertently pushed Clipse to innovate: by feeding the streets directly, they proved an album delay didn’t have to mean a career delay. The mixtape circuit and the internet buzz around Clipse grew so strong that Jive finally felt the pressure.

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Eventually, Jive blinked. In May 2006, the parties reached a settlement: Jive would let Clipse release their long-delayed second album, but on Clipse’s own terms. The duo secured a deal to put the record out via their Re-Up Gang Records imprint (with Jive handling distribution). It was a compromise born of the lawsuit – essentially Clipse wresting back some control. With a green light in hand at last, Pusha T and Malice geared up to drop the most eagerly anticipated album of their career, nearly four years after its recording began.

Breakthrough in Chains: Releasing Hell Hath No Fury

“Fuck the coppers, the mind of a kilo shopper, seeing my life through the windshields of choppers. I ain’t spent one rap dollar in three years, holla.” — Pusha T

At long last, Clipse’s sophomore album Hell Hath No Fury hit shelves in November 2006, ending one of the most notorious delays in rap history. The album’s very title hinted at the duo’s simmering rage, and they poured every ounce of that pent-up fury into the music.

Hell Hath No Fury was a tour de force of icy, minimalist beats and bleak, unflinching lyricism about the coke trade’s highs and lows. The Neptunes crafted an unsettling soundscape of sparse synths and clattering drums – “sparse, bleak, challenging music… harsh, trebly beats,” as one review described – over which Pusha and Malice delivered career-best performances. From the sarcastic swagger of lead single “Mr. Me Too” to the paranoid narratives of “Nightmares,” a sense of frustration and defiance permeated every track. It was as if years of industry purgatory had only sharpened their knives.

Critics were enthralled. Hell Hath No Fury earned universal acclaim upon release, with many hailing it as an instant classic and arguably the Neptunes’ masterpiece. Influential hip-hop magazine XXL gave the album a rare “XXL” perfect rating, one of only a handful of albums ever to receive that honor at the time. Publications from The Guardian to Rolling Stone sung its praises. “There’s not an ounce of fat here,” wrote The Guardian, noting that maybe the enforced delay allowed Clipse and the Neptunes to refine it into something lean and mean.

In hindsight, the album’s legend is inseparable from the struggle behind it: Hell Hath is celebrated not just for its music, but for the blood, sweat, and tears Clipse endured to get it released. As one retrospective put it, “The poisonous label politics… shaped the project’s character and sound,” pushing Clipse to make an album as uncompromising as their situation.

Yet for all the critical hosannas, Hell Hath No Fury was a commercial underdog. Years of delayed momentum, lackluster promotion from Jive, and the album’s unapologetically hardcore content all led to modest sales. The record debuted at #14 on the Billboard 200 with roughly 78,000 copies sold in week one, respectable, but a far cry from the platinum heights of early-2000s rap. It struggled to produce a radio hit (“Mr. Me Too” and “Wamp Wamp” only achieved moderate chart success), and by mid-2007 the album had sold around 200,000 copies total.

Clipse didn’t seem surprised. They had made the album they wanted to make, industry trends be damned. “There’s a model for an album now, a single, the club record, the girl record, and we go against that,” Pusha T explained, reflecting on why Hell Hath was so dark and cohesive. During the tumultuous recording process, he and Malice scrapped any soft or radio-friendly songs: “I can’t give you the girl record, because I’m mad. I ain’t got nothing to say about women,” Pusha said bluntly of their mindset. The result was “one big-ass street record” with zero concessions. That commitment to art over accessibility would become Clipse’s calling card going forward, for better or worse.

Final Round: Til the Casket Drops & Departure

Having survived “label hell” to get Hell Hath No Fury out, Clipse wasted little time charting their next move. In 2007, with their Jive ordeal behind them, the duo officially exited their contract. “We’re ecstatic,” Pusha T said upon finally being granted release from Jive. “We just want to come into a situation that’s fresh and everyone’s trying to win. We haven’t been in that situation for so long.”

That fresh start came in the form of a new deal with Columbia Records in late 2007. Columbia welcomed Clipse via a 50/50 profit-sharing arrangement on the group’s own Re-Up Gang label , progressive deal reflecting Clipse’s hard-won leverage. As Malice noted, after all the drama they just wanted “good energy,” and Columbia offered “both the urgency and the muscle” to support them.

With a new label home and new resources, Clipse turned to crafting their third album, determined to not repeat past fiascos. Their third LP, Til the Casket Drops, finally arrived in December 2009 on Columbia. In some ways it was a departure from the Clipse formula. For the first time, the brothers broadened their production palette beyond The Neptunes’ sole oversight,  enlisting outside beatmakers like Sean Combs’s Hitmen and DJ Khalil in an effort to experiment.

The album’s tone was notably lighter and more celebratory in places, with catchy tracks like “I’m Good” (featuring Pharrell’s hook) aimed at radio play. Critics and fans sensed that Til the Casket Drops attempted a balancing act between Clipse’s gritty roots and a more polished, crossover sound. The reception was mixed. Some appreciated the glimpse of a more upbeat Clipse, but many felt the project lacked the bite of its predecessor. Slant Magazine noted the record “eschews most of the drug talk… only to give way to standard brag-and-boast” fare, remarking that much of the duo’s signature edge felt diluted.

Commercially, it underperformed , peaking at a lukewarm #41 on the Billboard 200 and moving just 31,000 copies its first week. After two albums of fighting the system, Clipse’s grand finale landed with a bit of a thud.

Behind the scenes, Til the Casket Drops was also the end of an era for the Thornton brothers themselves. Unbeknownst to fans, Gene “Malice” Thornton was undergoing a spiritual transformation, feeling conflicted about continuing to rap exclusively about cocaine and street exploits. On the album, his verses subtly signaled a man half out the door,  fact Pusha T later acknowledged.

“Bro, Malice is telling you the whole time, he’s leaving. You hear it the whole way through the album,”

Pusha said, reflecting on Til the Casket Drops years later.

Indeed, by the time the album dropped, Malice had one foot in a different world. In 2009, shortly after Casket’s release, Clipse effectively parted ways – not with any animosity, but with an understanding that each needed to follow his own path. Malice officially changed his name to No Malice, symbolically killing off his old persona, and stepped away from the group to pursue faith and family. As he put it, three acclaimed albums about the dope game were enough; his soul needed something new.

Aftermath: Solo Success & Label Wisdom

The two brothers embarked on very different solo journeys , each shaped by the hard lessons learned during Clipse’s label war.

Pusha T, ever the rap purist, doubled down on his music career. In 2010 he signed with Kanye West’s G.O.O.D. Music imprint (under Def Jam), a move that finally placed him in a supportive creative camp free from the corporate dysfunction of the Jive days. Pusha quickly flourished as a solo artist: he appeared on Kanye’s My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, dropped lauded mixtapes (Fear of God, Wrath of Caine), and released a string of critically acclaimed solo albums. He even earned multiple Grammy nominations and, in 2015, was named President of G.O.O.D. Music – a position that lets him mentor other artists and undoubtedly draw on his own label survival stories.

With G.O.O.D., Pusha enjoyed the best of both worlds: major-label backing coupled with creative autonomy under a fellow artist’s leadership. It was the kind of artist-friendly environment Clipse could only dream of in 2005. In interviews, Pusha has hinted that he runs things differently now, ensuring that talent and vision aren’t stifled by corporate myopia, a direct influence of Clipse’s past struggles.

No Malice, on the other hand, took a more radical detour. Feeling spiritually compelled to leave the coke-rap image behind, he walked away from the mainstream industry altogether in 2009. No Malice self-published a memoir (Wretched, Pitiful, Poor, Blind, and Naked) in 2011, detailing his religious awakening, and released solo music independently that reflected his new faith and perspective.

Free from any label expectations, he could rap about God, redemption, and real-life lessons without worrying about marketing departments or sales quotas. “I have to remember that I too was at one time beside [Pusha],” No Malice said in 2013, explaining that he doesn’t condemn his brother’s secular music but simply can’t continue on that path himself. By going independent, he retained total creative control, an unmistakable reaction to years of feeling boxed in by record executives.

Both brothers, in their own ways, achieved the creative freedom that Clipse had long fought for. The scars of label drama made them wiser: Pusha navigated the industry with shrewd caution (eventually becoming an executive himself), while No Malice proved that artistic fulfillment sometimes means stepping outside the industry entirely.

Legacy: Clipse vs. the Industry Machine

Looking back, Clipse’s saga stands as a cautionary tale and an unlikely inspiration. On one hand, it’s a story of how talent can be stifled by corporate politics – how a gold-selling duo with superstar producers behind them still got trapped in “label hell” due to mergers and marketing misfires. If Lord Willin’ showed what Clipse could achieve with a label’s full support, Hell Hath No Fury showed what happens when that support turns into obstruction: you get an underground masterpiece instead of a commercial smash.

Their career reminds us that for artists, the music industry’s machinery can be both kingmaker and dream-killer. Many up-and-coming rappers in the late 2000s took note of Clipse’s ordeal as a warning to negotiate better deals or maintain leverage over their work.

On the other hand, Clipse’s resilience helped redefine the value of mixtapes and grassroots buzz in hip-hop. When label gates were closed, they built their own lane via the We Got It 4 Cheap series, harnessing the internet and the streets to create demand that the industry couldn’t ignore. This DIY strategy, which was somewhat novel in the mid-2000s, foreshadowed the mixtape and blog-driven careers of countless later rappers.

In an era before SoundCloud and streaming, Clipse proved you could nurture a fanbase without a studio album, using free releases to keep momentum alive. That approach has since become standard practice; one could argue Clipse helped pioneer the modern blueprint of maintaining artist autonomy amid label disputes.

They insisted on releasing Hell Hath No Fury on their own imprint, an early hint at the kind of ownership and independence that’s now common in the streaming age. Today, when we see artists bypassing labels to drop surprise mixtapes or negotiating joint ventures that give them control, we see echoes of Clipse’s fight.

In the end, Clipse’s legacy is twofold: musically, they left us with some of the most revered coke-rap albums ever made; industry-wise, they left a blueprint for surviving the machine on your own terms. As Pusha T and No Malice prepare to reunite in the studio (the duo has hinted at a new Clipse project in the works), their story comes full circle , not as wide-eyed newcomers, but as veterans who bent the industry to their will. “Label hell hath no fury” indeed: Clipse showed that fury can fuel genius, and in doing so, they changed the game for those who came after.

The Comeback: Let God Sort Em Out and the Latest Label Clash

Sixteen years after their last album, Clipse is poised to release Let God Sort Em Out on July 11, 2025. Produced entirely by Pharrell Williams and featuring artwork by KAWS, the album marks a full-circle moment for the duo. But in true Clipse fashion, the release came with serious friction behind the scenes.

Originally signed to Def Jam, the duo found themselves in conflict over the track “Chains & Whips,” which features Kendrick Lamar. According to Pusha T, the label, concerned about Kendrick and Pusha’s public friction with Drake, one of UMG’s biggest stars, equested edits to Kendrick’s verse. “They wanted me to ask Kendrick to censor his verse,” Pusha said. “Which of course I was never doing.” Check out Pusha’s previous collaboration with  Kendrick.

Rather than cave to label pressure, Clipse chose to walk. Steven Victor, Pusha’s longtime manager, confirmed the duo paid a seven-figure sum to exit their contract with Def Jam. “They didn’t drop us. They said, ‘Pay us this money’—which was an exorbitant amount—and we’ll let you out of the deal,” Victor explained. The move was costly, but it ensured that Let God Sort Em Out would be released without compromise.

Soon after, Clipse signed with Roc Nation, setting the stage for their official return. The lead single “Ace Trumpets” dropped on May 30, 2025, featuring Pusha and No Malice in peak form, sharp, unflinching, and uncompromising. The title itself nods to a higher judgment, a fitting metaphor for a duo who’ve spent their career navigating an often corrupt music industry while refusing to dilute their message.

In many ways, this latest drama echoes the past: industry interference, creative roadblocks, and the high cost of artistic freedom. But Clipse’s choice to bet on themselves once again reinforces their legacy, not just as artists, but as architects of autonomy in an industry that still resists it.

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